A series of pages about Substance Misuse Recovery Programs, Real Recovery. and Analysis of Alcoholics Anonymous.
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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance — that principle is contempt prior to investigation."


The above famous misquote1 was put in the Big Book by William G. Wilson, in Appendix II, "Spiritual Experience", in the back of the second and third editions. Bill Wilson was trying to imply that we should not dismiss his "spiritual cure for alcoholism" without first trying it.

That is curious, because in 1864 Herbert Spencer was actually arguing against fundamentalist religious beliefs and dogmatic blind faith, and in favor of Charles Darwin's new theory of evolution.

Nevertheless, that quote sounds like good advice. So let's really, honestly, investigate Alcoholics Anonymous, without rejecting criticism of A.A. before investigation of all of the facts...

What is the REAL A.A. success rate?

Out of each 1000 newcomers to A.A., how many will pick up a one-year sobriety medallion a year later? Or ever?
And how many will get their 2-year, and 5-year, and 10-year coins?
How about 11 years and 21 years?

HINT: the answers are here and here and here.

What do you get when you rearrange the letters in Living Sober?


Pro-A.A. Propaganda, analyzed:

  1. A.A.-Booster Pseudo-Science: Spirituality: The key to recovery from alcoholism
  2. More A.A.-Booster Pseudo-Science: The Spiritual Dimension of Healing
  3. More Big Lies — A.A. Propaganda As Usual
  4. More A.A.-Booster Propaganda: the book Cults: Faith, Healing, and Coercion, by Marc Galanter
  5. Five more fake-science AA-booster papers
  6. More A.A.-Booster Propaganda: The Cybernetics of Self
  7. The International Journal of Mental Health and Addiction totally discredited the faked Humphries-Moos study that supposedly showed that A.A. works better than Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
  8. More pseudo-science and deceptions: Lee Ann Kaskutas, "Alcoholics Anonymous Effectiveness: Faith Meets Science".
  9. Dr. Harry Tiebout: The First Fascist Mad Scientist of A.A.
  10. Answer to a George Vaillant Speech
  11. The Recovery Propaganda Machine, part 7
  12. A reply to Kris Best's articles in the Lafayette Examiner

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1) Michael has done a lot of research on that quote, and he found that it actually came from William Paley, not Herbert Spencer. See Michael's paper here:

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Don't e-mail me with corrections or gripes, I didn't write this content, it's not mine to curate or take over, and arguing about whether or not AA "works" or is a wacky cult is more boring to me than christians and atheists arguing on Usenet thirty years ago. I have a life, fuck off, I won't answer your email.